Triple J, Sunday 3 February, 2002.

 Trent: We were finishing up the tour for the fragile, the fragility tour. The
 last place we went to was the States, and Iíd remembered being on stage thinking
 we really had it together now, and I thought it would be nice to somehow capture
 that. I thought, in my mind, that this would be the last time that we would tour
 in this format, with this band, playing songs from all the different albums. Iíd
 like to move into some different things, although Iím not sure what they are
 yet, but I feel like weíre at the point where itís time to change.

 JJJ: Having said that, does that mean this is the end of NIN?

 Trent: I hope itís not the end of NIN, Iím not looking at it that way right now.
 I just think that with the people I have around me in the band, when we decide
 to do a tour, it always winds up following the same format. I think weíve done
 that well, and Iíve enjoyed doing it, but Iíd also like to go out in a different
 capacity, somehow.

 JJJ: The fragility tour that this was recorded from was voted best tour by
 Rolling Stone. What was the show actually like?

 Trent: On this tour, I realised I had the resources to try some different
 production ideas. When I sat down to really work on the set-list and the way to
 present the band, I spent a lot of time figuring the best way to frame the
 music. When you see the show, it is not only an audio stimulation situation, but
 its also presented in a way that keeps your attention. Itís just about the
 experience of walking into a venue, and for two hours youíre taken on a trip.

 JJJ: I think a lot of that in contemporary music is missing, these days. A lot
 of times you go there, you see the band, they run through, but itís not the
 overwhelming experience that a NIN, Tool, or even a Pink Floyd show would be.

 Trent: I would agree, but I also donít want to say that that is the only way you
 can do a good show. Iíve seen Iggy Pop shows where he has just a light-bulb
 above his head, and it has an intensity and a fervor that is excellent. But for
 us, Iíve chosen to go the other path, and tried to make something that would
 take you out of your skin for a little while.

 JJJ: There is a couple of different versions of the disc coming out, and thereís
 going to be a special companion disc as well, called Still. That is all studio
 recordings, is that right?

 Trent: Most of them were done in some degree of live fashion, then they mutated.
 Initially, when I decided to put out a CD, I wanted to put out a double CD, one
 with the concert from the DVD, the live tour. But I had some leftover songs that
 were kind of broken down things that the band had been working on, or that I was
 working on by myself. Some of my favorite older songs that didnít fit the
 set-list, like The Becoming, Something I Can Never Have, The Fragile, for
 example. We had broken them down in rehearsal, and found different ways to play
 them that werenít really acoustic, but kind of turned upside down.

 It showed a real meloncholy, vulnerable , delicate side of the band. I thought
 it made a nice counterpoint to the main CD, which is the bombastic, live, loud,
 violent rock show. I manipulated these around into an EP length record, that I
 thought was a nice curiosity. But when I tried to put it out as a double CD, I
 got bitched at by record labels. I tried to give it away for free, and got
 bitched at for that, too. So, the bottom line is that this a deluxe CD, that has
 both CDs in it. You can also buy the live record by itself, but the Still record
 is not available for retail yet, only through our Website in the States.

 JJJ: Are there some new tracks on that?

 Trent: There are five new things that havenít been out before, one vocal song
 and four themes I was working on, like one is a follow-up to La Mer. Just some
 things that compliment where I was at, but also music that didnít fit into the
 new album Iím working on.

 JJJ: So, you are working on a new record. Any idea when that might see the light
 of day?

 Trent: Youíre asking the wrong person.
 (Laughs all round)
 I mean, Iím excited, Iíve got quite a bit of music done right now, and Iíd love
 for it to be wrapped up by summertime. Weíll see how it goes.